From PTyler107@aol.com
To stephanielbradshaw@gmail.com
Date Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 12:55 PM
Subject Re: Butcher ancestors
“Hi Stephanie,
Yes I might possibly a little more about William Butcher, but not a whole lot ... at least not as much as I'd like to know. First I am interested in finding out where you found proof that Eleanor Butcher was William's daughter? I have only supposed her to be his daughter at this point. Did you find a death record for her that tells that William was her father? You have Reuben Butcher as born in Rockingham County and having died in June 1828, did you find a record of that? I had only guessed that he died before 1830, and that his brother Samuel Butcher had died about 1829. So far I had not found proof of this line of Butchers being in Rockingham County, although I have found this county referenced many times as where the Butcher's came from. I did find them in Botetourt County, but they weren't there all that long.
I have guessed William's age as being born about 1760 more or less, and his wife Sarah (last name unknown to me) as born about 1765. William died about October 1824 in Cabell County I believe, and Sarah died about 1835. Both being guesses based upon Cabell County tax lists.
From marriage records in Botetourt Co., VA, I learned of a son named John (b. abt. 1782) who married Sally Maddox on Mar 6, 1802. I believe this John to have been my Matthew Hamilton Butcher's father, but have never found proof of that. For some reason, this John doesn't ever appear to have lived in Cabell County. I think he may have been in Gallia County, Ohio. I believe Sally Maddox may have died and he re-married there, and when he did, my Matthew Hamilton Butcher came to live with his grandparents. This is all a guess on my part, based upon a number of other pieces I have tried to put together.
Next is another son named Samuel Butcher (b. abt 1789) who married Mary Turner 2/28/1809 in Botetourt Co., VA. Samuel was in Cabell County. He's the one I mentioned in the first paragraph.
Then there is another son named William (b. abt. 1792) married to Elizabeth Henson 10/7/1813 Botetourt Co., VA and married a second time, I believe to Elizabeth Brumfield 8/23/1826 Cabell County, VA.
Then there is Hannah Hester Butcher (b. abt 1794) who married Samuel Cowan 12/1/1814 in Botetourt Co., VA. This Cowan family was in Cabell County, I think, I know at least 2 of their children were ... Thomas Jefferson Cowan and James Cowan. James Cowan married Sarah Butcher, daughter of Reuben Butcher and Rachel Dick, as his second wife.
Then there's siblings Reuben and Eleanor, as you know. And there is a James Butcher I believe to also be a son, he works on the Kanawha-James River Turnpike and is mentioned in Cabell County Court records, but I found basically no other information about him. There is a daughter Mary Butcher who married Peter Biggs 1/5/1808 in Botetourt Co., VA, and as far as I know, she never came to Cabell County. And there is a daughter named Elizabeth who married William Hamilton 4/13/1819 in Botetourt Co., VA ... this being after the William Butcher family had already left Botetourt Co, VA. I have guessed that Elizabeth stayed behind with her sister Mary and then married this William Hamilton.
In my family there is a rumored story that Matthew Hamilton Butcher was a Hamilton and not a Butcher. There was also a story in my family that he was the first Butcher in Cabell County, that he came to Cabell County to participate in a fight, and stayed, but from records I can clearly see he wasn't the first Butcher there. If his father were a Hamilton, then my guess is he'd have been maybe this William Hamilton who married Elizabeth Butcher. But he was born in 1812, and I believe he had a brother named Thomas Jefferson Butcher (b. abt. 1809, who is in some Cabell County records) and maybe one sister, named Hannah Butcher. There is a record of a Hannah Butcher who married Andrew Curtis 4/20/1831 in Cabell County.
I don't know if you've followed my Butcher lines or not. My 3rd. great-grandpa was Matthew Hamilton Butcher, my 2nd. was Thomas Jefferson Butcher, my great-grandpa was Benjamin Louis Butcher, my grandpa was Jesse Butcher, and my dad was Baxter Butcher. Matthew Hamilton Butcher's children were born in this order: Elizabeth, Thomas Jefferson, Adaline, Sarah, Lewis Martin, Julia, John (aka Charlie), and maybe a baby girl who died named America (1845) ... she's buried in the Peyton Cemetery close to where several of these siblings are buried.
I hope I haven't confused you. Let me know what questions this brings up for you. Thanks for contacting me.
Patty Butcher Tyler”
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from Stephanie Bradshaw
to PTyler107@aol.com
date Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 5:21 PM
subject Re: Butcher ancestors
"Patty,
Thanks so much for all that info! I only really started researching this family a few weeks ago. . . . Before I started this research recently, all I knew is that Lafayette Dick's father was John Dick.
After searching a while, I found Lafayette Dick and siblings
So, once I found all those Dick children living with different families, I assumed that it was because their parents had died, and I started searching online for info about each child to see if I could find anything about the parents. I found quite a few ancestry.com users who had submitted family trees with Lafayette and these siblings, and showed their parents as Eleanor Butcher and John Joseph Dick (some listed the father as Joseph, some as John, and a couple as John Joseph Dick). So although I didn't have an original source showing that these were the parents, I took that info and have been trying to find more about the family since then.
So, most of the original sources I have found so far are only census records for the children of Eleanor Butcher and John Joseph Dick and other relatives. I also found the marriage record showing that Rachael Dick and Reuben Butcher were married on 1 Aug 1822 in Cabell Co, (which fit with the Butcher family that Lafayette and his siblings were living with on the 1850 census). I don't know yet how Rachael Dick and John Joseph Dick are related -- if they are siblings or cousins? I don't know anything about John Joseph Dick's parents or siblings.
So, the info from the family trees on ancestry.com is what led me to believe that Eleanor and Reuben Butcher are siblings (plus Eleanor named a son Reuben, so that might mean something), and that their father was William Butcher and he was born in 1771. I've only tried contacting one of these people who submitted trees to ancestry.com so far, and haven't received a response so far. But here are links to the family trees that give that information, in case you'd like to take a look:
"CLEDA R STEPHENS FAMILY RESEARCH" family tree, submitted by ancestry.com user "Cleda45" of Cabell County, West Virginia
[Cleda is the one I tried to email, but haven't heard back from.]:
“Joseph Dick Birth 1800 in Virginia, Death 1875 in LIN CO WV
Marriage to Eleanor Butcher abt 1852
1860 Residence Cabell, Virginia
Marriage to Catherine Cook
Eleanor Butcher’s father: William Butcher Birth 1771 . . .”
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“Shrewsbury/Fyfe/Durrett/Lambert Tree” submitted by ancestry.com user “herdmu” from West Virginia:
“John Joseph Dick Birth 1800 in Virginia, United States Death 9 Dec 1868 in Lincoln, West Virginia, United States
Married 16 Mar 1822 in Cabell Co, , West Virginia, USA
Eleanor Butcher Birth 1803 Children . . ."
Ancestry.com "OneWorldTree":
"Rachael Dick Born: 1797
Spouse
Reuben Butcher, son of William Butcher, Born: 1797
Marriage: 1 Aug 1822 in Cabell, Virginia, USA
Children:
1. Rebecca Butcher F 1822
2. Emily Butcher F 1823, Marriage: 24 Nov 1850 in Cabell, Virginia, USA to Greenville Harrison (Born: 1816, Died: 1916)
3. Sarah Octavia Butcher F 1826
4. Ellen Butcher F 16 Jun 1833 in Barboursville, Cabell, Virginia, USA, Marriage: 16 Aug 1855 in Cabell, Virginia, USA to Charles W Shipe
(I know this info isn't original sources, but at least it gives an idea of where to look for records to either confirm or deny the validity of the information that these people have submitted). And there's still a lot more info like this that I haven't been able to go through yet.
One thing that I did find that was useful was a short biography of James Cowen. It's posted on the Wayne Co, WV GenWeb site by by Marilyn Gauge at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wvwayne/cowanjasbio.html
Here is the biography of James Cowen from that site:
"Wayne County West Virginia
Biography of James COWAN
James COWAN was born at Beech Fork, Wayne county, February 7, 1821, a son of Samuel and Hannah (Butcher) Cowan. His parents were both natives of Rockingharn county, Virginia, his father born October 7, 1790, and his mother in 1792. His mother died in Wayne county many years ago, and his father died in Scioto county, Ohio, in October 1879. The first wife of James Cowan was Hester Ann Turley, whom he married in Cabell county on May 19, 1844. She died in that county October 24, 1854, having been the mother of: Thomas Jefferson, born March 19, 1845; Samuel Floyd, August 24, 1850, drowned February 22, 1859; Nimrod, October 24, 1852; and Matthew, July 31, 1854, died August 29, 1854. Thomas Jefferson married Lou Reynolds in June 1866; they live in Scioto county, Ohio, and Nimrod lives in Cabell county.
The marriage of James Cowan with his present wife was solemnized September 13, 1855, in Cabell county, and his wife is Sarah Octavia, daughter of Reuben and Rachel (Dick) Butcher. Their children are four: Mary Susan, born January 11, 1852, married John W. Pack, August 2, 1876, and lives in this district; Hannah Rachel, born October 10, 1860, married Elms Hines on Christmas Day, 1878, and they live in this district; Isabell, born December 14, 1863, and Reason, born January 11, 1868, live at home. The wife of Mr. Cowan was born in Cabell county March 23, 1823, and both her parents died in Cabell county. Her father was born in Rockingham county, Virginia, in 1794 and died in June 1828; her mother was born February 7, 1801, in Monroe county, (then) Virginia, and died February 15, 1863. James Cowan lives on the farm in Butler District owned by the pioneer settler of Round Bottom, Samuel Hatton. His postoffice address is Round Bottom, Wayne county, West Virginia.
Submitted by Marilyn Gouge and extracted from Hardesty's Historical and Geographical Encyclopedia, Wayne County, WV, Biographies List, 1884."
So this biography is my source that Reuben Butcher was born in Rockingham Co, and that he died in June 1828 in Cabell Co. I didn't know how Hannah Butcher was related, but this also provides some info on her birth and death, and says that she was a native of Rockingham county. So maybe Rockingham Co is the place to start searching next. I wonder if we could somehow get our hands on a copy of that Hardesty's Historical and Geographical Encyclopedia for Wayne County -- maybe it would have some other family info if we're lucky?
(On the Wayne Co GenWeb site under biographies, there is also a listing for David Dick,
So, that's what I've got so far. I am still digging through census records and piecing together the families of the Dick children. Next I'll probably see what I can find out about the children of Rachael and Reuben. Sorry I couldn't help with any real proof for the relationship between Reuben, Eleanor, and William. If you come across any more on the family, I'd love to hear about it, and I'll definitely keep you in mind if I find any more useful records.
Thanks!
Stephanie"
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“Line 9, Benjamin Dick, head, white, male, born Jan 1852, age 48, married 24 years, born in West Virginia, father born in West Virginia, mother born in West Virginia, occupation: Farmer, months unemployed: 2, able to read, write, and speak English.
Line 10, Lucy Dick, wife, white, female, born Aug 1855, age 44, married 24 years, mother of 0 children, born in West Virginia, father born in Virginia, mother born in Virginia, able to read, write, and speak English.
Line 11, G W Dick, Lodger, white, male, born Jun 1834, age 66, widowed, born in West Virginia, father born in Virginia, mother born in West Virginia, occupation: Stone Mason, months unemployed: 3, able to read and speak English.
Line 12, Charles Morors [?], Lodger, white, male, born Jan 1883, age 17, single, birthplace not known, father’s birthplace not known, mother’s birthplace not known, occupation: Day Laborer, able to speak English.
Line 13, Gurtie Morors [?], Lodger, white, female, born Oct 1879, age 10, single, birthplace not known, father’s birthplace not known, mother’s birthplace not known, able to read, write, and speak English.”
[do not know the relationship of G W Dick]
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1910 Census, Benjamin & Lucy Dick, Thomas & Mary Johnson, Lucinda Johnson families:
“Line 9, Benjamin Dick, head, male, white, age 59, first marriage, born in West Virginia, father born in West Virginia, mother born in West Virginia, speaks English, occupation: Farmer, industry: General Farm, able to read and write.
Line 10, Lucy A. Dick, wife, female, white, age 53, first marriage, married 34 years, mother of 0 children, born in West Virginia, father born in Virginia, mother born in Virginia, speaks English, occupation: none.
Line 11, Emma H. Johnson, niece, female, white, age 8, single, born in West Virginia, father born in West Virginia, mother born in West Virginia, occupation: none, attended school within the year.
Line 12, Emory T Johnson, nephew, male, white, age 8, single, born in West Virginia, father born in West Virginia, mother born in West Virginia, occupation: none, attended school within the year.
Line 13, Gertie Harrison, Boarder, female, white, age 20, divorced, mother of 1 child, 1 child living, born in West Virginia, father born in Virginia, mother born in West Virginia, speaks English, occupation: Teacher, industry: Public School, unemployed 26 weeks during the year 1909, able to read and write.
Line 14, Geogie B Harrison, Boarder, male, white, age 3, single, born I West Virginia, father born in West Virginia, mother born in West Virginia, occupation: none.
Dwelling No. 33, Family No. 33, Lines 21-32:
Line 21, Thomas Johnson, Head, Male, White, age 48, Married 24 years, born in West Virginia, father born in Virginia, mother born in Virginia
Line 22, Mary V Johnson, Wife, Female, White, age 42, Married 24 years, mother of 10 children, 10 children living, born in West Virginia, father born in Virginia, mother born in Virginia
Line 23, Ishmael O Johnson, Son, Male, White, age 22, Single
Line 24, Laura T Johnson, Daughter Female White 21 Single
Line 25, William C Johnson, Son Male White 19 Single
Line 26, Annie S Johnson, Daughter Female White 17 Single
Line 27, Lillie M Johnson, Daughter Female White 15 Single
Line 28, Harry S Johnson, Daughter White 13 Single
Line 29, Roy R Johnson, Son Male White 10 Single
Line 30, Mary E Johnson, Daughter Female White 7 Single
Line 31, Edgar Johnson, Son Male White 4 Single
Line 32, unnamed Johnson, Son Male White 10/12 Single
Dwelling No. 34, Family No. 34, Line 33:
Line 33, Lucy Johnson, Head, White, age 76, Widowed, mother of 11 children, 7 children living, born in Virginia, father born in Virginia, mother born in Virginia.”
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ancestry.com ‘OneWorldTree’
“Henry Harrison Johnson
Born: 3 Dec 1872 Cabell, West Virginia, USA
Died: 25 Apr 1969 Kanawha, West Virginia, USA
Spouse 1
Sarah Elizabeth Chapman
Born: 1873 in Cabell, West Virginia, USA
Died: 1957 in Cabell, West Virginia, USA
Marriage: 1904 in Cabell, West Virginia, USA
Spouse 2
Lilly Belle Johnson
Born: 19 Sep 1875 in Lin, West Virginia, USA
Died: 12 Jul 1904 in Cabell, West Virginia, USA
Marriage: 12 Mar 1896 in Cabell, West Virginia, USA
Children:
Living Johnson M
Otho Jennings Johnson M b. 3 Dec 1896 in Lincoln, West Virginia, USA
Emma Johnson F b. 12 Oct 1901 in Cabell, West Virginia, USA
Emma Hazel Johnson F b. 12 Nov 1902 in Lincoln, West Virginia, USA
Emory T Johnson M b. 1902 in Cabell, West Virginia, USA
Elmer Ellis Johnson M b. 12 Jan 1904 in Cabell, West Virginia, USA
Spouse 3
Lavina Childers
Born: Apr 1872 in Cabell, West Virginia, USA
Died: 1912 in Cabell, West Virginia, USA
Marriage: 1904 in Cabell, West Virginia, USA”
